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| harry_lfc |
?can anyone else sign into the nita or fly dressers or have a been deleted ? |
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| Straid Bumble |
I don't expect you will be missing much mate to be honest 
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| b0ogaloo |
I can sign in
What message do you get when ye try and sign in ? Your posts are still showing.. they would show as" guest" if your profile had been deleted If you have been banned it would say" you have been banned by the forum administrator " Probably a glitch in the matrix Andy |
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| harry_lfc |
You have specified an incorrect or inactive username, or an invalid password.
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| b0ogaloo |
Do you enter the user name and password each time ? or does your browser remember it and fill it in automatically ?
Andy |
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| fossil-fish |
Harry,
Among others on this forum I have also been banned from that forum. It is sad that there is a bit of a history between NITA and people on here. There are also people who are happy to post on both and that is fair enough as well, no reason why they should not. Personally I think of the two that this is a much more friendly and better forum with a greater range of expertise and people, although I suppose you could say that I would say that. Really no reason to drag over old history and open up old sores, sad is the best way to describe the situation which leaves us with two forums covering the same small area of population. Anyway, continue to post on here, continue to post links on here to any forum you like, even though most of us can not access them and continue to enjoy the whole experience of belonging to an internet forum. You are after all in very good company. |
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| tack4 |
well said FF | ||||||
| harry_lfc |
it said this when i tried to get my password Sorry, but your password cannot be retrieved because your account is currently inactive. Please contact the forum administrator for more information | ||||||
| harry_lfc |
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| fossil-fish |
I would not worry to much about it Harry. This is a far better forum. | ||||||
| harry_lfc |
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| b0ogaloo |
Ahh .. your accounts been deactivated then
Strange, I administrate a number of sea angling related forums ( click on the www link in my profile to view the boat site) , and If I wanted to ban someone I'd use the ban button .. then send them an email explaining why . Normally I'd use the three strike rule. Unless its some mad sectarian or race related nonsense. Still could be a glitch in the matrix I suppose , but you said you had the same problems on the fly dressers forum ? Andy |
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| harry_lfc |
yeh dont worry about it m8 | ||||||
| ChrisDickey |
well as you all know i am a member of both forums and help moderate NITA forum, I knw there has been a lot of problems between the two forums and i agree with fossil, 2 forums for a small community, bit senseless tbh i dnt see how we cant be adults and get along | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
Chris, Of course you are right, and that is a fine sentiment. To any outsider veiwing these two places, we must seem totally daft. The answer, common sense would suggest, would be to simply have all members on one forum. That really would make a great place. However, under which regime? A set up where members simply dissapear on a weekly basis and no difference of opinion with the site administrator is tolerated? Not for me thank you. I did not choose to be excluded from the NITA site, (it was at one time quite a good forum) but now that I am I am happy enough to spend my time and effort on this one. The difference I think is this. Anyone on here is completely free to belong to both sites, for as long as they do not end up banned from one, and to post links and references to each. (Even though many of us can not actually read those links). No one here is going to get uptight or upset about the fact that NITA exists, after all that is why we are here. This is simply a much better forum, more posts, more informative responses, more active members and far better social activities. Live and let live, after all the place is really pretty unimportant to many of our own members. |
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| ChrisDickey |
well NITA has more posts lol just to let everyone know, i have taken over the running of NITA for the forseeable future so I hope we can all be adults and use both forums | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
Perhaps instead of the term, more posts, I should have said more activity. NITA after all has been in existence longer. I am quite happy to be adult in attitudes towards other forums , but like other members here, I do not have the option of using both. Good luck while you run things for a while, I am sure that it can only result in improvement. |
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| harry_lfc |
turns out im not banned i had to change my password to reactivate my username | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
There you go, all's well. Things like that used to happen a lot there.
Still think you would be better sticking to this one, it is far better. Never know when that sort of thing might happen again. 
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| ChrisDickey |
i think this whole thing should be sorted out and i was wondering if i will be able to put the other side across as long as im not banned or the post deleted? | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
I would be extremely annoyed if anyone was banned from this site because of their association with any other forum. I would also like to think it would be highly unlikely. I am quite happy to hear you out, but what do you mean by 'sort out'? |
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| latte |
What is nita & flydresser??
Would not mind seeing for myself what all the fuss is about. |
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| fossil-fish |
NITA ia a trout fishing forum from which several members on here, myself included have been banned. Although many members happily enjoy both forums I am unable to read or access it. Can't say that it causes me much loss of sleep. You might enjoy. http://nita.myfreeforum.org/ Flydresser is a fly tying website which apparently is run by the same person. I didn't know that ,but as you have to register to read any of the content I didn't bother. Again you might enjoy. http://flydresser.myfreeforum.org/index.php I think in all honesty that you will find this place a lot friendler, more easy going and with much more activity, but each to their own. After having a look I hope you remain and contribute to and enjoy this forum. You are most welcome.
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| FIREY BROWN |
Hi Latte welcome to the forum.... NITA is another forum and a few of the guys on here are members on there flydresser is also a forum which is dedicated to fly tying and if im correct its run by the Admin (or some of the Admin) from NITA... Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| FIREY BROWN |
it would be extremely unlikely of you being banned on here Chris i cant imagine why that would happen.. im miffed as to what you mean by "put the other side across" Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| latte |
Visited both sites and they both seem very good especially like the fly tying site, no more or less busy than here. I did not need to join to view the majority of the content. II will see how it pans out to see which is the best but busier is not always better. | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
Must be me, I tried to look at the photo section and the hints and tips but all that was brought up was a log-in page.
No reason to choose one over the other, many people on here use both. |
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| FIREY BROWN |
funny you should say that Michael as the same thing happened to me quite a while back when i went to have a look.. what is it with these guys that Start up a Forum yet they dont want anyone looking at Some of the content  could never see the point in that to be honest if you cant view the content then its most probably not worth while viewing ,,there are dozens of sites out there to openly view whenever you wish so it just another site nothing more nothing less
Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| latte |
Must be me, I tried to look at the photo section and the hints and tips but all that was brought up was a log-in page.
It does say "viewable by members only on a few pages", I am now a member and the content is very good. what is it with these guys that Start up a Forum yet they dont want anyone looking at Some of the content I think the idea is quite the opposite. It made me want to look even more, prompted me to join and I walked away a very happy customer. |
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| fossil-fish |
Not a problem at all Latte. Hope you continue to also enjoy our little site and add some posts. You are also extremely welcome to join us at Murloc on Saturday. |
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| ChrisDickey |
all i want to do guys is to put it all in the past, most of the people on here will know whats happened and i want to put it in the past, as i have taken over running of NITA i hope you will contribute to both forums
Chris |
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| fossil-fish |
Chris, No problems mate, no one wants to drag this all up, but the subject did arise. No point pretending that nothing ever happened, or treating our members like they are stupid when it is obvious there are some issues. Good luck running NITA but don't forget about us, you have had some excellent posts of late. |
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| FIREY BROWN |
thats good latte i hope you enjoy the forum,,i`ve had a look and its just not for me plain and simple now here`s how i see things as they stand 1) you sign up to this forum pretty recently 2) you make no comments or mention of the contents on here 3) you ask about NITA & the flydressing forum 4) you seem more preoccupied with the promotion of the flydressing forum (which im sure is very good) 5) now you want to know how to "MULTI QUOTE" people in my experience its not something you`d expect from a BRAND NEW MEMBER but there ya go... so hopeful you wont mind me asking you,, "just what is your objective on here" ?? havent you found anything of interest yet on this forum ?? perhaps flydressing will make you their PR man once you`re established on the site as you are doing a very good job already Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| latte |
I have now joined this forum, nita forum and flydresser forum and the only issues I have picked up on are with members here. No mention of it is on any of the other forums and it seems that the members on both those forums have not got any issues here, at least it doesn't state that in any posts I have trawled through. As an outsider who has no history of the situation or any members it seems to me that some on here have issues and very big issues with the membership off those forums. It seems very silly that you should have these issues and so openly express them when the parties you have an issue with are not present or have a voice to reply.
Enjoy life and drink a latte. |
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| ChrisDickey |
I dont want to pretend it never happened, i am a member of this forum aswell and i never treated anyone like they where stupid, i just think we are adult enough to leave it in the past and get on with fishing |
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| latte |
thats good latte i hope you enjoy the forum,,i`ve had a look and its just not for me plain and simple
now here`s how i see things as they stand 1) you sign up to this forum pretty recently 2) you make no comments or mention of the contents on here 3) you ask about NITA & the flydressing forum 4) you seem more preoccupied with the promotion of the flydressing forum (which im sure is very good) 5) now you want to know how to "MULTI QUOTE" people in my experience its not something you`d expect from a BRAND NEW MEMBER but there ya go... so hopeful you wont mind me asking you,, "just what is your objective on here" ?? havent you found anything of interest yet on this forum ?? perhaps flydressing will make you their PR man once you`re established on the site as you are doing a very good job already Thank you for the welcome Firey Brown. It is very much appreciated. Since you ask what is my objective, it is to enjoy the experience of the forum atmoshere, exchange and to learn about angling related issues. I never expected to walk into world war 3. I am simply telling it how I see it. I have no affiliation to anyone or anything. I simply joined and interacted, is that allowed? or do I need to be a member of an inner circle to have a point of view? |
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| FIREY BROWN |
issueslattethe reason people on here are allowed to express how they feel is because its called FREEDOM OF SPEACH,, if they choose to talk about issues then they are free to do so.. you may very well find that the reason you cant find some of the content on NITA is possibly that it has been deleted,,who knows ?? anyhow most of the guys just want to get on with fishing,tying, and whatever else they choose to discuss but on the odd occassion things like this may crop up and they are entitled to voice their opinion what strikes me as "strange" to say the least is the very fact that you`re new here and to NITA (so you claim) and yet all you are concerned about is forum politics,,no input from you about fishing,tying,rods,flies etc etc that one would expect from a newbee after all it is a Fishing Forum... if you want to enjoy and contribute to the forum feel free to do so if not you`re free to go elsewhwere FIREY BROWN |
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| latte |
For the record I am not a newbie, no sir. I have over 30 years experience at this game.
I will remember that in the future to post about other topics before having an input into other subjects. And you say this place is friendly, I think true colours have been shown today. |
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| FIREY BROWN |
fishingFair enough latte if you`re here to talk about fishing issues greatim just back today from Lough Sheelin,,4 days of fishing pretty hard at times too,, Friday was probably too good weather wise and i had 1 fish come to me right at the boat on a very slow drift,,my boat partner just watched in amazement as the trout made a last minute swipe for the fly,,i had him hooked for no more than 2/3 minutes before i lost him,,couldn`t repeat what i said to him on here lol...anyway in your experience what would you have done ??? should i have let him run a bit more or played him a bit harder ?? saturday was pretty much the same with the weather so trying to get a decent drift was hard,,how would you have approached the situation ?? should i have switched to maybe a sinker to get down to them ?? i hooked and lost 2 more fish by the way but that was in the evening.. Sunday was a stinker of a day rain rain and more rain but great drifts i put up maybe 8 or 9 fish,,bang fish on then off nearly all day..what was i doing wrong ???? my boat partner hadn`t touched a thing by this stage what could he have tried ??? i finished with 2 fish to the boat one at just over 1 lb the other maybe 2 lb but hard going all the same,,, sorry no pics of the fish as they went straight back... Monday (today) saw another hard day on the lough with me putting up 3 fish and my boat partner only 2 but no hook up`s..how could we have improved this ?? the weather was much much better but most of the time we were fishing blind..saw more monster fish this weekend on Sheelin than i`ve ever saw in my whole life.... Pic`s will follow Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| b0ogaloo |
My two cents
, I've been on the " internet" since the days of 14k dial up modems and I've seen it all ..and I do mean all 
I've moderated on some huge forums, I currently admin three sea angling related forums and I'm on the admin team of another freshwater angling forum.So lets say I've a bit of experience Disagreements happen, such is human nature. These disagreements can start over something very petty and escalate to full blown " forum wars " with users being banned , accusations being hurled from forum to forum, even virtual raids on rival forums. It happens With the creation of discussion boards or forums , A new breed of user evolved , let me introduce you to the forum " Troll "
My advice ... do not feed the trolls
Andy |
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| FIREY BROWN |
Sheelinlattethis was the conditions on Sheelin on Friday,,we tried different flies and lines but hard going.... All smiles but no fish 
Saturday wasn`t much better,,how would you have fished in this ?? 
this is the view from Carru Bay,, any ideas on how we could have approached these conditions ??? 
looking forward to your comments Regards FIREY BROWN |
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| latte |
You tell us. You seem to have the answer to everything else. | ||||||
| FIREY BROWN |
sheelinhmmmmm not quite the answer i`d expected from someone with 30 years experience in fishing but there ya goFIREY BROWN |
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| fossil-fish |
Sorry that this has upset you Latte. You are quite right, these issues are silly and old news. BUT, and it is a big but, you asked the question, you got an answer as honest as people could make it. If you don't like the answer don't ask. What did you expect, an avoidance of the issue or a pretence that no one knew what you were talking about? Perhaps a failure to even acknowledge that these other forums exsist. I hope perhaps that from what has been said that at least you understand enough and we can all forget about it and carry on with the forum. AS for expressing opinions when others are not present. I actually have not discussed the details and have no reason to on an open forum. I have said nothing in any bad terms about any person and have tried to answer your questions in as general but honest way as possible. Others are free to have their opinion and express it if they please. You say that there is no issues on these other forums. Have you raised these matters and posted these links on there and asked these same questions. If not perhaps you are judging us unfairly. You have 30 years experience in fly fishing, I have less than one and a half, your input can only be an asset to any forum that you are on. As well as the other forums you have joined I hope that you will post and contribute fully to this one. Apart from this unfortunate start, it is good to have someone of your experience on board. Perhaps that if we can agree that enough has been said on this subject to adequately answer the questions that you raised, we can leave this issue at that. PS It would be very good indeed to see you on Saturday. |
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| ChrisDickey |
admin i think this post should be locked or moved to an area that isnt viewable to prospective members | ||||||
| fossil-fish |
Why? Subjects were raised and discussed. Questions were asked and answered. No one told any lies or said anything offencive. No one has anything to hide. Why would admin lock this thread? If enough has been said on the matter the thread will end by itself. To those with no direct knowledge of the matters it will be as boring as watching paint dry. What is the problem? |
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| Watty's Rock |
Great advice Andy. 
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| tack4 |
i concur watty m8 baits may be cast but dont rise to it or you may get caught hook line and sinker |
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| fossil-fish |
I am not sure he is a troll. He might just be genuinely curious. If he is a troll it makes you wonder how somebody can be so sad and have so little else in their lives. I do hope you are wrong.
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| fossil-fish |
Re: Sheelin
Pink blob under an indicator??? 
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| b0ogaloo |
I've been wrong before..
Think it was in 97' , the summer if I remember correctly. Ah well, nobody's perfect
Seriously tho , and I know you disagree FF, but this thread IMO should be removed as should the one on NITA in the interests of forum harmony FWIW Andy PS I'd fish it with a bag of lime and a net
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| ChrisDickey |
fossil was jus saying to lock it cause we dnt need to go over it again and again, as you said opinions have been voiced and questions answered and it seems to have died off now | ||||||
| b0ogaloo |
So if its removed here, will you remove the comments on NITA .. in the interests of forum harmony ? Be better all round IMO Andy |
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| harry_lfc |
sure there on fly dressers to with latte sayin he was banned and stuff | ||||||
| ChrisDickey |
andy i dnt knw that there are any comments detailing it on NITA, all i was saying is that i think it is best left in the past, I wasnt anything to do with the incident.
so as to forum harmony, it seems that it was dragged up on here and has escalated when there has been no need for it to do so, hence why for forum harmony on this forum i thought it wud b best if where locked |
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| tack4 |
enough of this thread locked 
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