b0ogaloo
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Fishing BuzzersA few questions on fishing buzzers
Are they fished under a strike indicator , floating line or just " freelined" ?
Do I want ot get them close to the bottom or suspended mid water ? or do I fish a team of them ..if so what distance apart
Retrieving ? slow figure of eight ? or twitched or left well alnoe to do their thing ?
thanks in advance
Andy
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harry_lfc
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i would normally fish mine under an indicator static or doing a very slow figure of 8 i would normally cast them upwind and let the wind bring it round watching the indicator hope this helps harry
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fossil-fish
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Two ways I normally use them. Firstly under an indicator absolutely static or drifting on a slight breeze. Secondly, if you can get the wind right you can hold them against the wind on a tight line. Again static or with a very slow retrieve. If the fish are high in the water the indicator method can allow them to fish to deep. I would normally fish a team, usually two, three if conditions allow and I can avoid tangles.
There are times when fish will take them retrieved as any other wet fly or lure, but static or slow moving is the way the naturals behave. I have been told that an occasional long pull will make them rise in the water in a way that the natural pupae do, but that has yet to work for me.
There is no doubt that when you are faced with rising fish in a flat calm buzzer fishing is very effective and inspires confidence.
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b0ogaloo
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So would you fish them just under the surface then .. in a flat calm ?
would the strike indicator not spook the fish in this case ?
sorry for al lthe questions .. I'm new to this
Ask me anything about bass fishing ...
Andy
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ChrisDickey
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ive always used a slow figure 8 retrieve, very slow, and fish usually hit like an express train. I have tried them under the indicator but to no success, i know people rave about using an indicator as it give greater bite sensitivity but personally I love the anticipation of the take
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fossil-fish
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| b0ogaloo wrote: | So would you fish them just under the surface then .. in a flat calm ?
would the strike indicator not spook the fish in this case ?
sorry for al lthe questions .. I'm new to this
Ask me anything about bass fishing ...
Andy |
Andy,
With the indicator method you can allow your point fly, I usually use a beaded buzzer, to sink to it's full depth. This means that your droppers are covering a range of depths. Or you can simply slide your indicator up and down your leader so that your flies are fishing shallower or deeper. If the fish are high, then removing the indicator and fishing a lighter point fly allows the whole team to fish closer to the surface. Strangely enough I have been doing quite well recently fishing a green beaded buzzer fished about eight feet deep even among rising fish. You can cover a variety of depths and options.
Far from spooking the fish, one of the biggest problems with indicators is that the fish will continually try and eat them. It will probably happen at least once during a session, but if it is happening a lot I take it as a hint to change to more surface biased tactics. Apart from dry flies, you can simply keep your buzzer team and put a very bouyant fly on the point, again covering options. When I have tried this I have caught more on the point fly, but on one occassion recently had a fish on a diawl bach on a dropper fished this way.
Most of the fish that I manage to land using buzzers and indicators I can honestly say would not have registered a bite by sight or feel. One other thing that I do is to place the indicator well down the leader, at least three feet away from the end of your fly line. This allows for maximum sensitivity as the fish is only registering the bite on the tiny indicator and not pulling against the whole floating flyline.
It is not a method that works all the time, but when it does it is a very pleasant and relaxing way to fish, as well as being very efficeint.
Like yourself I am still fairly new to this type of fishing, but this is one of the things that I have managed to get to grips with this season. Hope it helps.
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harry_lfc
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i remember i was fishing upper south woodburn with my uncle gary and friend stuart and i was fishing buzzers with no sucess changed to a couple of bibios the wind was blowing towards me but i began to catch the fish on the bibios so i took the indicator off because when i was casting it was catching the wind then when i took the indicator off the fish stopped biting but when i put the indicator back on i started to catch the fish again i dont no if this was luck or the indicator was attracting the fish but i kept it on the rest of the day and continued to catch
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Watty's Rock
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Great info there FF on a very interesting topic.
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b0ogaloo
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Thanks for the detailed response FF
Andy
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CiaranM
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I like to fish mine with no indicator at all with a three fly cast usually on a 12 to 16 foot leader but if its really windy i only fish a two fly set up on a ten foot leader, the bigger or heavier pattern goes on the bottom with the smaller ones above it and usually the most hairy/scruffy one on the top dropper postion, i usually use a floating line with a flourocarbon leader to help get the line just under the surface, if its flat calm i use co-polymer leader and degrease the line about 8 inches above the point fly and 4 inches on either side of my droppers to take the glare off the line, the smaller the buzzer the lighter the leader tippet is needed in my opinion as this helps the flies fish much more naturally with a heavier leader tippet the flies don't act correctly in the undertow of the water or with the blow of the wind, in winter i use a Midge-tip fly line and longer leader (depending on the depths of the particular fishery) i put a size 10 bloodworm pattern on the point and usually size 10 black and red buzzers on my two droppers ( size 10 in winter because supposedly buzzers are bigger i'm not so sure)
hope these pointers help they work for me lol
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b0ogaloo
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Thanks Ciaran
Andy
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